It appears the 32ppm count is a standard recognized as a gluten free level below this figure. Talk about paranoia…..do bananas really just contain banana? Prep Time 20 mins. Free shipping on orders over $50! It’s cheaper though to buy the individual flours and make my own blend, than buy the pre-blend from them. Christine claimed she dosn’t eat gluten because of allergies and that she feels so much better using Bob’s Red Mill products (I know. When I get glutened it feels like a really bad fibro flare-up, which feels like a combination of the flu + anxiety/depression. They are the owners. Thank you, thank you! Yourselves, to make money off a fad. I saw some buckwheat flour at my local grocer the other day; it came from a shared facility and was disclaimed as having up to 60ppm gluten: not good enough. Our associates are qualified to advise, visit us online or in store for unparalleled advice. ... We Also Liked: King Arthur Gluten Free All Purpose Flour. You’re a normal human with normal emotions, positive and negative, and please don’t let anyone tell you to stifle them with drugs. Well said bhealthy. Some can have a high level while others a lower level. It is disheartening to know that even though they say “dedicated gluten free facility” they can still test as high as 20ppm. Personally, even though this episode is supposedly related just to the sorghum flour, I can’t help thinking that this casts a doubt over all their products – who knows how much else they are hiding about their other products. Your GD site captured my my attention. A perfect example of how being ‘gluten free’ is a hoax. The standard of 20 ppm is another thing. Complete our free nutritionist-curated questionnaire today for instant advice and recommendations. Sorry. This place feels to me the same way walking into the back door of my childhood home does...acceptance and understanding from my people! Celiac Disease Awareness Month: A Review in Rhyme, If Famous Movie Characters Had Celiac Disease: Part II, Sarah’s Unconditional Acceptance of our “New Normal”, Gluten-Free Love Story: Love Healed More Than My Soul. It all smacks of a company backpedaling fast trying to get around a serious problem. This is important when you think of the small amounts of corn used in so many foods and even the trace milk proteins that can be found in ghee. This is the only site that has the most credible and the most knowledgeable information on how to handle the disease and the community who promote products as being gluten free. Here are the details, on Tuesday, September 10, 2013, the Canadian Food Inspection Agency reported that a random test of Bob’s Red Mill Sweet White Sorghum Flour (623 g / Lot 150772 / Sell By: 11/07/2014 / UPC: 0 33978 30642 5) was found to contain 32 parts per million of undeclared gluten. After healing our guts significantly using the GAPS diet, I tried Bob’s Almond, Coconut and Hazelnut flours with same result—gluten symptoms creeping back!!!! Thanks for the balanced approach, whether it is funny, sad, angry, silly or loving. It took a few weeks for me to realize it might be the asian rice flour that was the problem (from Thailand), then I stopped using it. It gives me so much strength whenever i am hurting. I forgot to mention that Class 3 also means that there is no public notice of the recall. Bob’s Red Mill has been committed to providing the very best in gluten free flours, Baking mixes and grains for those on gluten free diets, for over 30 years. As the father of a celiac daughter, I absolutely look forward to reading your blog-word-by-word. This is scary. What is surprising is if you say it is a GF facility then you expect the PPM to be 0 or at least less then 5. Twenty one days later). As I’ve said a hundred times in this blog, I root for the small guy. Yes! King Arthur Flour. Flour made from this delicious bean lends a sweet, rich flavour to baked goods. The matter of gluten cross-reactors came up elsewhere in these comments. I’m furious that this happened now again, and more so that they weren’t up front and didn’t disclose. After I lost my job I felt worthless and tried to take my own life. There is a part of me that wants to know. The gluten free diet is scary and confusing, and it doesn't help that it is misrepresented by predatory money grubbers like Papa Johns or Omission (I'm still holding a grudge because I was badly glutened by their nasty beer when it first came out). Celiac Disease & Cross-Contamination: Tips and Tricks. At any rate, it certainly sounds better than the harder way of consuming (potentially x-reacting) tapioca from a source other than BRM and possibly getting sick again. Anyone else still having problems with Bob’s sorghum? So as a milling company that competes with Bob’s on a small scale I want to say that Bob’s Red Mill is one of the finest companies in the business. I say you should set up a journalistic interview or ask for an official release. I happen to react strongly to trace gluten, so ..who’s right? Additionally, if you have Celiac, you probably have other intestinal issues too. Maybe you don’t know that when Bob retied some years back he GAVE the entire company to hi employees! I'm at work right now crying while reading your site. I visited BRM before the recall got into media. Thank you for creating a place where I can go to find comfort and solace when I am sick of explaining my disease. Gluten-Free Love Story: Above and Beyond! I, for one, get stomachaches from arrowroot and I’m not even a Celiac (though likely have non-celiac gluten sensitivity). Most people without Celiac don’t understand the criticality of having even trace amounts of gluten for some people. Please, folks, respect those of us who are avoiding gluten in order to improve our health. We quit using Bob’s products years ago as we always got sick—gluten sick from them! I'm glad to meet a sane individual in the same boat as me. I had a very clear reaction to their oats and have been skeptical about the brand ever since. He told me now do you see you can NEVER NEVER NEVER go off your diet. A company that’s collectively owned by employees usually lacks the one person willing to accept responsibility when things go south. This versatile Flour can replace regular all purpose flour in a variety of recipes - just add guar gum or Bobs Red Mill Premium Quality Xanthan Gum 227g.. 600g. Keep up the good work. Every minute of every day right now and I am someone who only ate sugary items every day and NOTHING substantial but I do know after 4 months I didn’t crave it anymore by eating every few hours and non glycemic fruits. The single word bouncing around in my head right now is: Here’s the thing. Bob’s Red Mill Natural Foods is recalling organic amaranth flour that expired more than two years ago because recent testing showed Salmonella contamination. have a x-reaction to something that’s in fact GF. You’re not exactly making kale chips with that flour. I will certainly be following this story and will be anxious to see if Bob’s issues a response. It makes me feel better that there are others that feel all of the emotions and symptoms that I do. The blood test that would show this is done by Cyrex Laboratories in the US and is called Array 4. Keep rockin’ Gluten Dude. From what I’ve read about celiac, I wouldn’t be comfortable baking for someone with it because I don’t have a 100% gluten-free kitchen. I had to let you know how much help your blog has been in getting my husband to understand better what it is like to have Celiac. I hope his company will step up and take the lead by reducing the gluten content lower as you say. Human beings are not perfect and mistakes are made. (Personally, I’ve never seen another brand of arrowroot besides BRM, but I haven’t searched high and low for one.) No trust from me whatsoever. Your knowledge and honesty is like a life raft in an unknown and terrifying ocean. And one last piece of advice: Please don’t hide behind lawyers. Your posts are the most relatable to my own journey that I have found. Computer seems to be jumping around and replied to the wrong place. Literally. I am now searching for other companies that produce GF products only in dedicated gluten free facilities or that test under 3-5 ppm. Why would I suggest this? Listen to your body. I was under the impression that the purpose of this website was to support those who are gluten-free and to provide a place to discuss and share information regarding all things related to this subject. please read about it.. I’m not sure what sort of logistical challenge this would pose in getting the info out there in a timely fashion, but I think it would be great if GF food suppliers could disclose on their websites the results of their gluten testing — the actual inspection documents for each production lot number, preferably from accredited 3rd party inspections. If I were celiac, I would avoid grain entirely rather than rely on any for-profit business to provide a totally GF product. Now I know to rest when needed, to not trust something just because it says gf on the label, and most importantly, to advocate and be a voice for myself and this disease. For example, I have eaten products from other certified GF companies and not felt well afterwards, but I recognize that I have issues with eggs, soy and food additives, so I would not rush to blame it on “trace gluten” every time. You rock! I’ll grind my own bean and nut flours – and still keep watching even those suppliers as much as I can. Even the dietician who is supposed to be very educated regarding Celiac and non Celiac G Intolerance said she never heard of it. Struggling through health issues and trying to eat gluten free can make a person feel a tad…alone. and feel-good nonsense about celiac and gluten that is all over the Internet. Very well said. Why they aren’t able to therefore beat the legal standard and make that claim on the packaging, I don’t know. They don’t just test a bag of stuff. Tapioca is included in the Array 4 test from Cyrex Laboratories, which checks for antibodies to 24 gluten-associated cross-reactive foods. For those people who will no longer buy Bob’s, don’t think that other producers are immune to this happening to them. How many stores stock your products in their gluten-free section? But I’ve read a lot about you. I understand how easy it is to get discouraged by the gluten-free or celiac phonies, the apathetic medical community, the corrupt food industry, and the ignorant celebrities and media. So it’s not like BRM is getting singled out. Is this Celiac Awareness or Fear-Mongering? I can no longer take chances. Monday August 26, 2013. Thank you for sharing this info. There two I can name off the top of my head is Jay Robb protein powders and Heartland Brand “GF” Pasta.. Thank you for your blog. When I just want to scream from frustration, this is the place I come to find joy, peace, positive thinking, sarcasm, laughter, frustration and the will to keep moving forward and to know I have another day of healing behind me. Beyond this gluten contamination is common in the food supply and many grains and flours that are inherently gluten free may still contain gluten once processed. I worked every day 12-18 hours a day in excruciating pain since I was 22 . I’ve been using Bob’s Red Mill flour like crazy. Try Jules Gluten Free… have Never had a problem with any of their stuff and gave up on BRM long ago… YOU CAN BAKE!!! Find Another Partner. I found your site today and I have literally spent the whole day reading it. Starches? I saw him 2 days after my stroke and he was a godsend, even though I haven’t been the best patient and always have learned the hard way. We cannot tolerate ANY ppm. Well, you always disagree with everything I say so, this comes as no surprise that the only thing you took from my logical post that tried to look at every possible explanation was that I was “dismissive and insulting.”. This gluten free flour blend can replace regular all purpose flour in a variety of recipes—just add xanthan gum or guar gum (check the guide on the package). I don’t know if I have Celiac but I do know I’m extremely sensitive. The recall itself is not delayed, only the administrative function of posting. The other concern I have is influence or contamination from corporate wheat supplies whether intentional or accidental. Click here for instructions on how to enable JavaScript in your browser. Bobs Red Mill Flour Artisan Bread - 5 Lb Gold Medal Flour Whole Wheat - 5 Lb Signature SELECT Flour All Purpose Pre-Sifted Enriched Bleached - 32 Oz Gluten dude Okay. Thanks GD. Cook Time 12 mins. Thanks again for all your posts and being a voice for us Celiacs! Sadly, their stuff is a little bit more expensive. Thank you for your efforts in our community. or are newly diagnosed? They could have tested it and found it just fine and lied about it. Jennifer You make a huge difference by bringing us all together in this celiac/coeliac “family”. I'm just overly and completely impressed by you. Do I want a chocolate chip cookie? If you don’t. The test results would all look the same. So what if you personally don’t react—-we do. It’s also possible, of course, that the arrowroot powder was contaminated with gluten. But if one batch got hit, who’s to say there aren’t more. Poor kid had to sleep with his vomit bucket. If they usually test at 5ppm and somehow there was a batch in Canada that tested above 30. Rice doesn’t contain gluten.”. Multiple checks are in place to prevent gluten contamination. I’ve decided to start only using 100 percent guaranteed GF-free products and see how I feel. A scientist? If something tests as <20 ppm ( less than 20 parts per million), that does not mean that it has tested positive for gluten. I’m quite aware of gluten cross reactivity and the entire concept. I don’t recollect any follow-up CFIA announcement rescinding the BRM recall, as there was for the cumin products. I just read your comment regarding the Bob’s Red Mill recall. © 2020 Gluten Dude: The Naked Truth About Living Gluten Free | Legal Stuff, Bob’s Red Mill Gluten-Free Flour Gets Recalled for Having Too Much Gluten. Directions How to use this product. Thank you Gluten Dude! Please stop posting here until you get a clue. All the ingredients in our GF Biscuit and Baking Mix are inherently gluten free and the mix is created in our gluten free facility. And when that finally clicked I started getting better. How about 0 parts per million for all Gluten Free products. I am sure they will do right by their loyal customers. Damn it! This is frustrating. Did we read the same post? I just want to say that I discovered you about 5 months ago & you have quite literally changed my life. My husband and I were seriously glutened by this flour a few months ago. While I completely understand the concern about gluten contamination in many “gluten-free” products, and it’s a very real threat/possibility, I think it makes sense to consider whether a person is reacting to the gluten-free grain or food itself, not any potential gluten in the product. You are aaawesome!!! I learnt some things that months of online trolling for information has failed to teach me... so thank for the effort that you put into your words; they are short, to the point and funny. It is an administrative function that we perform in the interest of transparency. You have created a place where we can let it all hang out, and just be ourselves. This isn’t to bash everyone with a uniform stick – some may be genuinely trying and mean well. I don’t buy it, Bob’s Red Mill. I eat rice noodles from Thailand on a pretty regular basis, so I know some of the rice products from that country are fine. Try Jules Gluten Free. But Dude, I appreciate how you are urging everyone to use the 3ppm, the best test we have. No more Bob, ever. My thought was just that if your daughter has not been exposed to arrowroot anytime recently, it’s possible she was reacting to that food itself. I suspect in this case it was just a random test to which all food vendors are subject. I would just like to say a big thank you to you, and all of those who comment on the blog. Thank you for all the hard work and energy you put into making this a place with lots of good information, lots of good people and lots of laughter! They don’t get violently sick after ingesting gluten, as many Celiacs might, but that’s just the problem: they don’t have an immediate confirmation that what they just ate was causing them harm. Is that wrong that we want to be friends with you and your wife (who also seems super cool)? Unfortunately probably a lot of our gluten-free grains are contaminated. I want to thank you for everything that you have done to make me feel more comfortable about eating gluten-free. He also stated he is a dedicated GF facility. The CFIA is notoriously secretive about the results of their testing. Occasionally, there is a bit of a delay in posting a lower-risk recall. Better safe than sorry. However, it’s only the specific “gluten” contained in wheat, rye, barley, etc, which has historically been identified as toxic to those with Celiac or NCGS. Your email address will not be published. Thank you so much Gluten Dude. They will hopefully learn from it and take whatever steps are necessary to keep it from happening again. I’m not quite sure why your social media manager is handling such a delicate situation but who am I to say. Great blog. Mind you, you probably thought through all this anyway, which could/would be why you mentioned tapioca — which IS covered by this test — in the first place. It helps so much! Tests Reveal: Gluten-removed Beer is NOT SAFE FOR THOSE WITH CELIAC DISEASE, Video: My Book, Friends, Tequila and Gluten-free Beer. Thanks for letting us know abot KInnikinnick. Rather disappointing. There is no uniformity, and even those places that say they are aware of celiac/G intolerance vary in what exactly that means in practice. And for individuals there are times in life when a good lawyer is a godsend, it is like doctors we all know there are bad ones, realy bad ones, and there are good ones. You've given me some hope. Finally! FYI -Bob doesn’t own Bob’s Red Mill anymore he gave it to his employees in 2010. In that time however your blog/website and latterly eBook have been an invaluable resource which has allowed me to really hit the ground running once the diagnosis was confirmed. I’m not sure quite how to fit this into the big picture. I order from them. Bob's Red Mill Gluten Free 1-to-1 Baking Flour is the perfect solution for your gluten free diet! Best wishes and most importantly, THANK YOU hero! I’ve reviewed several CFIA reports (pertaining to gluten and otherwise) and they often include language regarding whether the recalled products have already been linked to any consumer health issues. Dude...you're the one who annoyingly insisted that gluten free wasn't good enough, a totally unpopular and harsh opinion. For the past week, my whole system has been royally messed-up – alarmingly so. 624 GR . There might be something in it other than gluten that your system doesn’t agree with. Wheat flour would test positive even if it has a million parts per million. Have a great evening! I just came across this article on celiacdisease.about.com (link at bottom) that shows how easily some nominally GF grains are doomed for cross-contamination before they even leave the farm. Nutrition Facts Serving Size 34 g Servings Per Container 67 Calories 120 Total Fat 0.5 g Saturated Fat 0 g Trans Fat 0 g Cholesterol 0 mg Sodium 0 mg Total Carbohydrate 24 g Dietary Fiber 1 gSugar 0 g I just posted on your fb page yesterday, desperate to figure out why my son’s lab test came back over twice the recommended range. Having some good and honest advice has made the whole experience a lot less daunting. So, that’s your opinion and I have mine. Yes, I am sure things can happen to what they use before it gets to their processing facility. I have read that some celiacs are so sensitive they can react to a GF product that was prepared in a vessel which was previously used to prepare conventional food. I’m not trying to spread unwarranted fear here. Thank you! And that’s not saying the true damage that had been done internally. You are true and passionate celiac disease advocate, and an important voice to celiacs all over the world. This flour has such a huge fan club, it is now a celebrity in its own right! It infuriates me to no end to see products labeled gluten free on the front in big letters bold letters.. then on the back in tiny letters says..”May contain wheat” or “processed in facility that also processes wheat”.. what the heck is that and who are they try to sell to anyway ??.. I figured they were probably getting contaminated in the factory so I stopped using them and stopped getting sick. Dear Dude: My Girlfriend has Celiac and Cheats. I would worry too much if I tried to just keep a gluten-free cupboard. This was my thought as well (see above). Gluten Dude…you have touched so many lives and you have a way of making anyone who finds your blog to feel so understood and a part of a welcoming and supportive community. I’ve had the same issues and just learning gluten is the culprit. Last I heard, he was explaining that they had tested it at least twice before releasing it. Thank you Dude!!!! My son just got a bad reaction to the gf oats – but not to the last batch. Could it be that any reactions were to one or more of the ingredients rather than a gluten issue? I absolutely love your blogs and hearing new peeps stories and lessons. Rice doesn’t contain gluten. 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